Freelancers Forum Messages on Friday March 10th 2000
Re: Network Solutions/Internic - It is hopeless to solve problemswith them, they are crooks. Maybe i
date posted 10th March 2000 23:40
Please remove [EMAIL REMOVED] we're tired of seeing this mail and
will simply filter you if it persists.
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To: Derek R. Anderson [EM...
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 23:26
Shawn Seabrook wrote on 10/3/00 3:20 pm
>Layout has to be defined. Will what the client want, work in all browsers?
>How easy is it to navigate through the site? How can artwork be compressed
>to do...
Re: FN-FORUM Mark and rates and contracts
date posted 10th March 2000 23:25
Phil Ward wrote on 10/3/00 3:06 pm
>Hey I wish I could get £3,000 for a 7 -9 page site, I find clients will pay
>half of that unless I include a Flash intro and navigation!
I would agree with that...
Re: FN-FORUM Contracts [was Internic]
date posted 10th March 2000 23:25
Dan Winchester wrote on 10/3/00 2:26 pm
>Besides, if your client is a business, they will be used to signing
>contracts for
>everything else they do. Be suspicious of anyone who is reluctant to be...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 23:10
Mart'&Suzi Woollatt wrote on 10/3/00 2:52 pm
>>At some point your client is going to ask for the source code, and that
>belongs to YOU.<
>
>That's a new one on me, is it different in this game, and...
RE: We have had TONS of problems with Network Solutions.
date posted 10th March 2000 22:35
I don't know how I got on this "complaint list" but if you use
internic-whois.com to look up names, and register them there, they are
freindly, helpful and pick up the phone 9 am to 9 pm Eastern Time...
RE: We have had TONS of problems with Network Solutions.
date posted 10th March 2000 22:34
Please take me off of your complain about the internic list. This is my
second request...furhter correspondance will be considered SPAM.
Richard
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Re: FN-FORUM Search engine optimisation
date posted 10th March 2000 22:33
Hi, Peter...
> >And the search engine optimisation alone is worth what clients pay - if
> >it can't be found, it doesn't exist.
> >
> This is an interesting statement. I'd appreciate your explaining...
We have had TONS of problems with Network Solutions.
date posted 10th March 2000 22:14
Yes, we have had TONS of problems with Network Solutions. We suggest using
other registrars for better service. Personally I don't need 24 hour per day
service. Rather, we just need polite and intell...
Re: Network Solutions/Internic - It is hopeless to solve problems with them, they are crooks. Maybe
date posted 10th March 2000 22:10
>Maybe if we get enough people we can go against them and take legal action.
Excellent idea. I am in. Anyone else?
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At 23:58 -0800 3/9/0, Derek R. Anderson wrote:
>There is nothing...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 21:15
Martin Woollatt:
>That's a new one on me, is it different in this game, and something I need
>to know about ? My Significant Other is an illustrator
>(http://www.sumar.force9.co.uk/suziart-index.htm...
RE: Source code
date posted 10th March 2000 20:50
>I noted in an earlier posting that someone doesn't give the source code
>to the customer. Is this normal and if so do you think it is worth telling
>them they can have it for a price?
Several clie...
Re: FN-FORUM INTERNIC
date posted 10th March 2000 20:42
Wouldn't worry too much about internic. US domains can be got from
ezee.co.uk for £25 and UK domains for just £10
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Re: FN-FORUM Search engine optimisation
date posted 10th March 2000 20:31
Jim Lynch wrote:
>And the search engine optimisation alone is worth what clients pay - if
>it can't be found, it doesn't exist.
>
Hi Jim,
This is an interesting statement. I'd appreciate your expl...
Re: FN-FORUM INTERNIC
date posted 10th March 2000 20:28
At 10:36 +0000 3/10/0, Dan Winchester wrote:
>[On behalf of [EMAIL REMOVED]
>
>Hmm, thats strange, because now they require that a domain name must
>be paid
>immediately before it can be changed. May...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 19:34
In my travels through the corridors of copyright jurisprudence, the most I or
anyone else can say is that when you have a question, see a lawyer specialising
in matters of copyright. And if it is to...
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:34:04 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 19:28
Folks...
I have been (and still am) on many lists. And even without that wealth of List
experience I can tell you that anyone with a modicum of life experience knows
that in every group of people th...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 19:19
Paul
> I believe this is incorrect, unless the law has changed in the last few
> years. Your significant other owns the actual illustration. The client
owns
> the right to use a copy of it in whatev...
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:34:04 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 18:31
Angie here...
I know that it's quite easy to spend 12 days on 4 pages. Especially
if those 4 pages have loads of database programming code in it, and
the Graphics designer has managed to make a D...
date posted 10th March 2000 16:38
Chris,
Surely web design is a few diffrent set of rules as you are a designer, and
a programmer?
I know that if you purchase software you are not entitled to source code.
As for Java applets they...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 16:29
Paul,
The law in the UK regarding ownership changed if I remember rightly some years
ago (maybe 8 years) - at least as regards graphic artwork (ie paste-up) such
that the purchaser had the right to...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 15:55
> That's a new one on me, is it different in this game, and something I need
> to know about ? My Significant Other is an illustrator
> (http://www.sumar.force9.co.uk/suziart-index.htm ); the artwor...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 15:30
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From: Paul Kilgour [EMAIL REMOVED]
>At some point your client is going to ask for the source code, and that
belongs to YOU.<
That's a new one on me, is it different in t...
Re: FN-FORUM Contracts [was Internic]
date posted 10th March 2000 15:30
From: Dan Winchester [EMAIL REMOVED]
>
>Be suspicious of anyone who is reluctant to be bound to their verbal
committments in writing.<
Whilst studying for my CPC (Certifiacte in Professional Compete...
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 15:14
If there is one mail to pull me back out of lurk mode it is this one.
I'll ignore the fact that I have been accused of being a con artist and
wonder how many people actually believe this. I have met...
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 15:10
Peter,
> Hello,
> Web design is easy and overrated, I can create a site which looks a
> hell of a lot better than a lot of the rubbish that is on the internet in
> just one day so I don't know h...
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 15:10
Morgan,
> Also I noted in an earlier posting that someone doesn't give the source code
> to the customer. Is this normal and if so do you think it is worth telling
> them they can have it for a pri...
Re: FN-FORUM Mark and rates and contracts
date posted 10th March 2000 15:08
Hey I wish I could get £3,000 for a 7 -9 page site, I find clients will pay
half of that unless I include a Flash intro and navigation!
Just my view.
Regards
Phil Ward
Crescent Graphics
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RE: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 14:40
[On behalf of JR, [EMAIL REMOVED]
Does anyone have an example of a typical contract, (so I don't have to
reinvent the wheel)?...
RE: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 14:38
what's the url??
From: Martin Smith
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Tel: +44 (0)1364 654 100
Fax: +44 (0)1364 654 200
WebSite: http://www.greymatter.co.uk
Post: Grey Matter Ltd....
Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 14:35
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RE: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 14:30
Hi all,
I've been lurking since the start and I think it's time I added my piece.
Dreamweaver doesn't make ideal code and it needs to be cleaned up in an
ASCII editor like notepad. Also concernin...
RE: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 14:29
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Re: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 14:28
Troll...
Re: FN-FORUM Contracts [was Internic]
date posted 10th March 2000 14:27
> Do most of you draw up contracts?
Just the act of thrashing out a contract can be helpful in ascertaining the
client's expectations compared to your delivery plans, and lead to a less painless
dev...
RE: FN-FORUM Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:12:47 -0000
date posted 10th March 2000 14:22
it's not that it's expensive, it's that it produces bloated code (of which
i'm no fan). The net needs to be as slick and quick as possible, the only
real answer is to use a combination.
Cheers,...
date posted 10th March 2000 14:16
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RE: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 14:03
Does anyone have an example of a typical contract, (so I don't have to
reinvent the wheel)?
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Mark and rates and contracts
date posted 10th March 2000 13:56
Hi Mark,
I have worked with a few freelancer designers now and usually expect to pay
about £200 per day for someone experienced.
I would expect someone to complete 7 - 9 pages within a week to 10...
Re: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 13:07
Mark,
I'm just starting out on the web side of things, (after 20 years designing
for print) hoping to be getting some work in soon.
£500 for a 7-9 page site does seem a bit cheap to me, but then y...
Re: Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 12:42
PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THESE MAILINGS
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From: Vratislav Kuska [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Cc: [EMAIL REMOVED] Karel Spada [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Thursday, March...
RE: FN-FORUM Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 12:10
Hi everyone,
just a few questions,
I have only been freelancing for 2 months and am currently coming to the end
of my first two projects. I haven't used a contract I just quoted for the
work as mos...
INTERNIC
date posted 10th March 2000 10:36
[On behalf of [EMAIL REMOVED]
Hmm, thats strange, because now they require that a domain name must
be paid
immediately before it can be changed. Maybe they stopped payment on
their
credit cards? The...
Re: Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 10:35
[On behalf of Derek R. Anderson [EMAIL REMOVED]
There is nothing to do, It is hopeless to solve problems with them,
they are
crooks.
Maybe if we get enough people we can go against them and take leg...
INTERNIC
date posted 10th March 2000 07:17
Hmm, thats strange, because now they require that a domain name must be paid
immediately before it can be changed. Maybe they stopped payment on their
credit cards? They used to bill you but not an...
Re: Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 04:55
There is nothing to do, It is hopeless to solve problems with them, they are
crooks.
Maybe if we get enough people we can go against them and take legal action.
I have alot of proof where they took m...
Network Solutions/Internic
date posted 10th March 2000 04:15
Hello,
it might be sligthly off topic, but it is important. I have bad experience
with Internic. They cancelled for "non-payment" several domains, although
in other correspondence they acknowledged...
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