Re: FN-FORUM Dont go to uni

date posted 12th July 2001 11:16

Hmmm, bloody Pascal. I have done and HNC in Computing and was thinking
about University. I talked to somebody and I can't even get in to the first
year as the college taught us Pascal.

If I had been taught Java things would of been different....


----- Original Message -----
From: Darren Spink [EMAIL REMOVED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:59 AM
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM Dont go to uni


> Well, this is a can of worms..... Maybe some of the programmers in this
> forum will concur, but from my experience learning to program is different
> to web design. The skills and techniques that university courses in
> "Computer Programming" are a very good foundation for any modern day
> language. For example, if I recall correctly, PASCAL is a language
designed
> in the late 1960's/early 1970's, the language is used to teach structure
for
> data and programming, many of these techniques would not be apparent in
many
> modern languages.
>
> Other good examples are learning to program in assembly language/machine
> code. With a firm understanding and skill in this area you develop a very
> good approach to problem solving and routine writing.
>
> I don't think that any reasonable university course is a waste, many
> employers don't really care what someones degree is in, they just want to
> know if the person is capable of commiting to something for a period of
time
> and following it through.
>
> This next bit may offend some developers, but it is not intended to so
> please read it first before spitting feathers:-
>
> In my opinion there is a great difference between real development (actual
> languages such as C/Java etc) and the so called developers who have a core
> package and write custom scripts to manipulate the core package. Certain
> areas of the internet development would appear to be based in 'real'
> development where as others appear to be beefed up word processors.
>
> 2 pence delivered....I will run for cover now...
>
> Regards
>
> Darren Spink
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> [EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of Johnny Kattouf
> Sent: 11 July 2001 23:53
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Subject: FN-FORUM Dont go to uni
>
>
> Hi, it's me again ,and no i don't have anything to sell!
>
> Iis it just me or do many people here share the same thought that going to
> uni to study computing is a little useless. Unless its programming or
> electronics stuff which don't change as much, studing things like
webdesign
> and networking at uni seems to be a waste of time. I mean by the time you
> get out the technology is old, and while you are in there you are taught
by
> one source , the book, rather than learn by your self throught the net,
> learning hundreds of techniques and stealing code.
>
> There are some great new media schools in sweden(where i'm from ) namely
> hyperisland.com (or .se, can't remember and too lazy too check) that are
> really good at teaching web design, BUT after going through a class's
final
> projects i noticed quite obviuolsy that they were all tought the same
thing
> by the same person and had the same design flaws.
>
> Learning to design a website and learning dreamweaver are 2 totaly
> differnet things, so one should really research the course before going.
>
> just my thoughts on the issue
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Johnny Kattouf
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