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RE: FN-FORUM Help Error Messages!!
date posted 29th September 2001 22:05
I would say with the machine spec you have given, it should be capable of
running Office 2K on Win ME.
If the problem is persisting after "Professionals" have been to disinfect
the systems from the virus, I would suggest that the machine be fully
re-installed (formatting the hard drive with clean media etc). If the
problem continues after this, it would appear to me more than just a
software problem.
Regards
Darren Spink
http://www.arkad.leeds.co.uk
Tel: +44(0)113 253 4750
Fax: +44(0)113 253 1686
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[EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of Ausaf
Sent: 29 September 2001 12:38
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM Help Error Messages!!
Hi,
The spec is as follows from what I know, 128 MB Ram, P111 min 550 branded
Gateway machines running Windows ME:
The thing is that they recently had their network attacked by virus (not too
worry mine is totally clean and not affected!) Nimda or something like that.
After having bought in professionals to get it all cleaned, that's when they
started having this particluar problem..could it be related to that, or will
it need a total format...!!??
Thx..
Ausaf
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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 4:55 PM
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM Help Error Messages!!
What spec machine is he running?
Adding more RAM could be a solution...
Matt
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 29 September 2001 16:36
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: FN-FORUM Help Error Messages!!
Hi Everyone,
I have a perplexing problem...a colleague of mine keeps getting a "Not
Sufficient Memory to run etc etc..on a number of options..
This is exclusively on Microsoft office 2000, I have just stated to
uninstall and reinstall..they have done that and this error message is still
around...anyone know why..? Or better still how to get rid of it...?
Thx in advance...
Ausaf
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[EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of Peter Small
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 2:35 PM
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM thought
If I may add to your interesting discussion, a definitive source of
information on methods currently being used for information indexing and
retrieval is The Spire Project, set up by an Internet research resource and
thinktank (http://spireproject.com). Here you'll find excellent
descriptions of most the major search engines in use today - together with
explanations of their strategies to index and retrieve useful information.
Their limitations are discussed in two articles by the manager of this
project, David Novak:
Keeping up to date with Internet Research Technique and Theory
http://spireproject.com/art09.htm
The Growth of the Internet Should Still Scare You
http://spireproject.com/art10.htm
In these articles, David Novak writes:
---
"...organizing the internet is not a problem that will be solved. It only
looks that way to people unaware that babies put on a lot of weight fast.
The truth is that despite much effort, much of the internet will forever be
un-catalogued and not indexed. The volume, trends and logic has made this a
predestined impossibility. We will only ever arrange a fractional (and
diminishing) percentage of the internet".
---
peter
http://www.avatarnets.com
Organic portals:
http://ecommerce.internet.com/news/insights/ebiz/article/0,,10379_891621,00.
html
>
>The point I was trying to make was that I have experience of SEO and stat
>tracking which proves that SEO is an equal partner to design for small
>businesses.
>
>I prefer the proactive approach to internet marketing which SEO gives, also
>because I own the sites, I have been known to spend the odd afternoon
>sending out e-mails to relevant company's to make them aware of a
particular
>website. Of course, this is spam, and I have had a few adverse comments
>(around 0.25%), but I have also gained some sales for my clients this way
>too.
>
>Bottom line is, I work hard to ensure success for my clients, that way I
get
>recommendations and generally v positive feedback.
>
>Please get onto google and search for "search engines", learn all you can,
>give as much weight to understanding how websites are indexed and
>incorporate this knowledge into your next design.
>
>Submit websites to the search engines by hand if you can for best results.
>
>I'm sure your clients will appreciate your work, and, who knows, next time
>you look on your favourite search engine for a product in your town or
city,
>it might return a useful result.
>
>ian.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
[EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of David Eckersall
>Sent: 28 September 2001 19:11
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Subject: Re: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>stats! yeah! :)
>
>okay, i admit you've proved a point with these stats and its nice to know
>clients are getting results from people sites.
>
>we all go from experience i suppose - your experience was positive with
SEO,
>while mine was negative.
>
>i still dont believe that SEO is a mandatory advantage for *every* site
>though.
>
>dave ecky
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ian Bullough" [EMAIL REMOVED]
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:22 PM
>Subject: RE: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>Again,
>
>I'm not selling searches, I don't even push stats onto my clients like:
>
>"Ooh look how many hits I got you, ain't I good???"
>
>I sell sales leads!
>
>How does the client know it's a sales lead?
>
>Because the enquiry comes via a form on the website that a potential client
>fills in and, as I said before they usually find the sites through search
>engines.
>
>You want examples?
>
>One of my clients is getting 20 sales leads per month via forms on their
>website.
>
>How many convert to sales?
>
>Around 20 - 30%, for this particular client (sells burglar alarms etc.) or
>4 - 6 sales per month, or between £1000 - £2000 per month.
>
>Prior to my re-designing the site, this client had ZERO sales in the two
>years that the original site was live (even though they advertised in the
>paper and Yellow pages and had URL on stationery etc.).
>
>Get people on the site, make sure it looks professional, make it easy for
>them to register their interest via a form and then follow up the sales
>lead. The website should be designed with one thing in mind:
>
>to get the sales lead!
>
>You have to make it easy for a potential customer, providing an e-mail link
>doesn't work anywhere near as good as a well designed form. I also find
that
>asking for a phone number rather than an e-mail address works better
because
>a serious "potential" is more likely to be willing to provide a tel no. and
>just sending e-mails back and forth has a tendency to be a fruitless
>exercise.
>
>You say that ineffective SEO has contributed to a lack of trust on the part
>of small businesses. I completely disagree. What has led to a lack of trust
>on the part of SME's is the piss poor performance of the websites they were
>provided with in the first place.
>
>Four pages all with the same title of the company name ain't gonna swing
it!
>Worse still is the "Untitled Document" or "Home Page" that are commonplace.
>
>Relevant hits on websites are very important and the more the better. The
>internet can be a new form of advertising for small businesses if their
>websites are designed properly (good design is equally important to SEO). A
>small business EXPECTS new customers from their new website (that's
actually
>what they pay for) but bad design and total disregard for SEO tends to turn
>high expectations into deep disappointment. Next time their buddy asks
>"how's your website doing?" they'll say "piss poor, you're wasting your
time
>with the internet!".
>
>That isn't a judgement likely to increase the value of a website designers
>service. That £2000 website now becomes worth the £300 the recruitment
>company on tight briefs was willing to pay.
>
>The thing that really pisses me off is that if you know a bit about design
>and you're pretty good at SEO, then that £300 website will probably do at
>least £1000 business per month for that company, unfortunately it's too
late
>then to ask for more cash.
>
>SEO and good design are EQUALLY important in the small business market.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>ian.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
[EMAIL REMOVED] Behalf Of David Eckersall
>Sent: 27 September 2001 22:06
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Subject: Re: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>you're totally, utterly and completely missing the point.
>
>my original argument was that your method isnt the most efficient,
effective
>way of improving a companies sales.
>
>i ask again:
>of those 85% of websites found via search engines, can you provide stats
>about the number of leads/sales generated from this?
>
>in addition - your search stats, can they provide me with the following?:
>what type of people searched (ie, joe public, opposition, corporate)
>what size of company were they searching for
>what sales were generated from the search
>what was the cost/gains ratio from the site?
>what increased percentage of sales did the client have due to the SEO of
the
>site.
>
>i am not arging about searches.
>
>i am arguing that there are more effective and efficient ways of spending a
>companys budget to increase sales and that too many companies/freelancers
>have relied on things like SEO alone and that this has contributed to a
lack
>of trust by SME's.
>
>if a regional-based client expects sales from his site and all you have to
>offer is SEO, then for all the sales its likely to generate you might as
>well sell snakeoil.
>
>bottom line: searching aint buying.
>
>dave ecky
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ian Bullough" [EMAIL REMOVED]
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:02 PM
>Subject: RE: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>Bottom line,
>
>people do search for carpets and bathrooms and cars etc...
>
>I've got 18 months worth of stats that prove you wrong.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL REMOVED]
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>Sent: 27 September 2001 16:13
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Subject: Re: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>im not debating the effect of SEO for attracting people to a site - im
>debating its use for *sales*
>
>people rarely look for a regional business over the web - anybody who uses
>the internet to find a local carpet seller, bathroom fittings, etc. needs
to
>learn how to make more effective use of their time.
>
>on the other hand, SEO is fine for businesses that are
>national/international are looking to expand in such a manner because those
>type of companies people will. for these SEO will increase sales leads, for
>many SME's who are regional based it wont.
>
>never, ever, EVER confuse people looking for websites with people looking
to
>purchase something - they're 2 entirely distinct concepts. those 85% of
>websites found via search engines - is there a breakdown of type, what the
>the searcher is interested in and what involved sales?
>
>2 sites i did were optimized to hell last year, appeared in the top 10 in
>some 15 differerent search engines (KN payed searchengineers a fair whack
>for this) yet generated no sales, because when KN sold the websites they
>never considered *what* people searched for! hats and warehouse stickers
>havent proved to be what companies/people search for...
>
>i said this some months back, but know your audience and target
>accordingly - SEO is useful in many cases, but equally is also worth jack
>shit in many cases.
>
>dave ecky
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ian Bullough" [EMAIL REMOVED]
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:58 AM
>Subject: RE: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>You say...
>
>"if approached by a company like that i wouldnt even entertain the thought
>of
>increasing business for them that way"
>
>...However SEO isn't about increasing business for the website design
>company it is PURELY to increase business for the small business.
>
>If you are a website designer, you need to get one fact very firmly locked
>in your brain:
>
>85%+ of people find websites through search engines!!!
>
>You want proof???
>
>I run a website for one of the largest carpet buying groups in UK. They
have
>240 members in different towns/cities. The website is set up to provide a
>page for each member (i.e. town/city) and also has around 10 pages about
the
>group. So we have 250 HTML pages.
>
>The group advertise heavily in specialist magazines, they have the URL on
>their stationery etc.
>
>I measure stats for them and collate them each month. The website gets an
>average of 3000 page views per month. I have trackers on each page and also
>record where the hit came from and what search term they used to ge there.
>
>In addition, every member promotes the website in their own towns/cities.
>
>Now by your estimation, the most viewed page has to be (in this case)
>index.html as that is a measure of the effectiveness of traditional
>advertising (advertising the URL brings them to the homepage).
>
>But, out of 3000 page views, the index averages only 390 per month (around
>15%? I haven't got my calculator). The rest of the page views are made up
>from the town/city pages being ranked highly on search engines, so that a
>person searching for:
>
>carpets in some town/city
>
>is likely to find that page on the website first (because I SEO'd it).
>
>SEO is always sold by saying 85% of people find websites through search
>engines, I at first was VERY skeptical but the example I have given above
is
>REAL and I've been tracking stats on the website for 18 MONTHS now.
>
>When I took over the website, it was set up with Active Server Pages,
>unfortunately, setting up this way gives a very LOW profile on the internet
>in fact the way the website was first set up, a search engine could only
see
>10 pages as opposed to 250 as it is now.
>
>I don't mind people ignoring my posts or posting intelligent replies, but
>when you talk in terms of Search engine optimisation being a scam and then
>back it up with ludicrous arguments (can't you see how stupid advertising
>your internet advertisement is) I have to respond strongly.
>
>My bathroom site will have around 400 pages and I'm working on a site for a
>car leasing company that will have over 500. Covering all the bases, is the
>ONLY way to get quality sales leads from the internet for small businesses
>(unless you have a MASSIVE advertising budget in which case ASP or PHP or
>JSP is the way to go I don't deal with this size of company - yet).
>
>I for one NEVER use the yellow pages and if you want a VERY interesting
>statistic, I also track hits for a company that has a Yell.com link (the
>ones that advertise your internet advert cost £199 per annum) they get
(wait
>for it!) 3 hits per month. My search engine optimisation brings this same
>company over 500 hits per month! I KNOW this (i'm not in the guessing
>business) because the entry points are other than the index.html page.
>
>I repeat:
>
>For a small business website design AND search engine optimisation are
EQUAL
>partners.
>
>THE reason small businesses don't want websites is that their friends have
>told them that websites are a complete waste of time (unless your selling
>HOME PAGES or UNTITLED DOCUMENTS of course) and that position has been
>reached because website designers don't know and couldn't care less how
>search engines work.
>
>After all, 99.99% of people always use the Yellow Pages don't they???
>
>BULLSHIT!!!
>
>
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>Sent: 27 September 2001 02:56
>To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>Subject: FN-FORUM thought
>
>
>somebody the other day mentioned about cross referenceing this'n'that with
>local towns for a bathroom company.
>
>im trying to work out why since like 99.9999999% population if i require a
>new bathroom i have this big yellow book downstairs that is infinately
>faster than searching on msn or google.
>
>if approached by a company like that i wouldnt even entertain the thought
of
>increasing business for them that way - i would explain the advantage of
>having an online 'brochure', the use of joining forces with other local
>businesses and advertising in the local media in conjunction with the
>website. the leaflets and newspaper campaign would be there to generate new
>leads witht he website offering images, prices and accolades to reinforce
>the nonweb advertising.
>
>imo too many freelancers/companies have seen the web as the only avenue in
>which to help clients like this - this i feel has contributed to a lack of
>trust from many SME's towards the web. many of these companies dont have
>websites because they dont NEED them! the outlay required for a few extra
>leads just isnt cost effective, however if used in a structured campaign
you
>could bring in these clients a much better cost/gains ratio.
>
>just a thought
>
>dave ecky
>
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