Re[6]: FN-FORUM Mac info request

date posted 15th September 2002 18:52

Just sometimes, when it's the nearest machine. It doesn't matter one
way or the other as it's a development server, and not used by the
public.

As for that version of netware, thankfully no, a touch before my time
- I think I was first exposed to netware 3.11 or thereabouts, but that
was bad enough ;) I havent used netware since the first release of v5
about a year and a bit ago - the first versions of NW5 were evil too -
easy enough to install, but requiring an absolute beast of a machine
to run the GUI on.

-- Richard
http://www.rwatt.co.uk

Sunday, September 15, 2002, 6:29:25 PM, you wrote:
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L> You browse from a server????!!! A server isn't made to be used for
L> foreground tasks. I'm not surprised it sulks!

L> These particular servers weren't installed until just before Sp3 came out. I
L> can't remember if they had ever crashed before sp3. It's so long ago. One of
L> them was NT3.51 before that and it didn't crash then either.

L> Servers are on 24x7 for the last however many years it has been (apart from
L> when the UPS battery died). Workstations are also on almost permanently.
L> Sometimes I power off, but not often.

L> Do you remember installing (or formatting for Netware 286?) Now that was
L> evil!

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L> From: "Richard Watt" [EMAIL REMOVED]
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L> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:30 PM
L> Subject: Re[4]: FN-FORUM Mac info request


>> Well, I didnt say that my NT machine crashed, just that it behaved
>> oddly (strange pauses and periods with 100% CPU usage when browsing
>> for instance) however, as it's a server that doesn't matter too much.
>> And the only time it has ever required a reboot is when I apply
>> patches. Yes, NT is pretty good, but only when patched past SP3 as you
>> mention, which means it took a year(?) or two for MS to fix the major
>> problems after release.
>>
>> As for my Win98 machine, its probably just because it gets continual
>> use 9-14 hours a day and hasn't had a format for 5 years.
>>
>> And yes, I do remember patching Netware (3,4 & 5) all in the same
>> office, please don't ever bring up that subject again ;)
>>
>> -- Richard
>> http://www.rwatt.co.uk
>>
>> Sunday, September 15, 2002, 4:41:39 PM, you wrote:
>> ---------------------------------------
>> L> Perhaps your hardware is faulty. Seriously! I have several machines
L> running
>> L> Office and I haven't had a crash for several years. My NT servers have
L> never
>> L> crashed since being installed in er, well, before sp3. Sure you haven't
L> got
>> L> one of those nasty spyware thingies (or Kazaa--which is one!) that
L> screw up
>> L> your TCP/IP stack running? Most crashes I've seen recently are caused
L> by
>> L> those (or people who insist on running Word with loony settings).
>>
>> L> I totally agree about FrontPage, it's almost as bad as Netscape 4
L> (though
>> L> not quite), and on a par with RoboHelp--but then only sissies use
L> wysiwyg
>> L> tools (ducks).
>>
>> L> Microsoft products are no worse than many and a lot better than most.
L> Well,
>> L> all spreadsheets are basically the same...(except for the unusable
L> ones).
>>
>> L> At least MS provides patches, unlike Oracle for example. Anyone
L> remember
>> L> patching Netware, shudder. To cut down time spent patching, experiment
L> with
>> L> QChain, (although you shouldn't need it for most Win2k stuff now) and
L> make
>> L> sure you use hfnetchk to see what you actually need.
>>
>> L> Not a designer, remember
>> L> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> L> Kathy
>> L> http://www.vendetta.co.uk
>> L> DNRC Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
>> L> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> L> ----- Original Message -----
>> L> From: "Richard Watt" [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> L> To: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> L> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:50 PM
>> L> Subject: Re[2]: FN-FORUM Mac info request
>>
>>
>> >> Well, most versions of the MS Office products have crashed my machines
>> >> at least once a week, can be incredibly slow even on a machine with
>> >> 512mb memory and a Ghz processor. From a website design point of view
>> >> IE has been responsble for many, many evils against HTML standards, as
>> >> have earlier versions of Frontpage. I recently spent 7 hours patching
>> >> all my various browsers & operating systems, and am required to do
>> >> this about once a month otherwise my MS based operating systems could
>> >> be compromised, even with the latest patches my NT Server box displays
>> >> odd behavior, my old Win 98 machine crashes twice a day, and my
>> >> W2k laptop only shuts down cleanly 1/3rd of the time (from a clean
>> >> install).
>> >>
>> >> Please don't tell me they make good products; they have fantastic
>> >> marketing strategy, and have tied a good proportion of the world into
>> >> their products and proprietary file formats, that is all.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- Richard
>> >> http://www.rwatt.co.uk
>> >>
>> >> Sunday, September 15, 2002, 3:14:14 PM, you wrote:
>> >> ---------------------------------------
>>
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