Freelancers Forum Messages on Friday June 27th 2003
Re: FN-FORUM: Alexa.com?
date posted 27th June 2003 23:03
hi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ema" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> The toolbar is quite useful...
> http://download.alexa.com/alexa7/startpage.html?p=Dest_W_b_40_T1
>
> Em
As long as you realise it is Ama...
Re: FN-FORUM: Alexa.com?
date posted 27th June 2003 22:49
Michael Beckett wrote:
> Their stats are culled from sites visited by people with the alexa
> toolbar installed, but they do have a large user base, apparently 10
> million, although it's said a lot o...
FN-FORUM: one way to stop spam!
date posted 27th June 2003 22:15
http://www.lewrockwell.com/manion/manion36.html...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 20:21
> Also, if the camera has a view finder, turn off the LCD as this just turns
> NiMHs and alkalines into ex-batteries very quickly.
>
Yes, although it isn't strictly relevant to your original question,...
FN-FORUM: HELP!!!! CGI Scripts & ASP??????????
date posted 27th June 2003 19:10
I'm starting to pull my hair out here, please someone
help, I have designed a feedback/order form in
dreamweaver and I realise you need some programming
such as cgi or asp i have foubd out that cgi is...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 19:02
I had the same problem with my Pentax optio 230 digicam and I found that the
NiMH batteries were pretty much as bad, the only ones that really work well
are the lithium batteries. Ever Ready do a pai...
RE: FN-FORUM: Alexa.com?
date posted 27th June 2003 17:35
Their stats are culled from sites visited by people with the alexa
toolbar installed, but they do have a large user base, apparently 10
million, although it's said a lot of those are in Korea.
Michae...
FN-FORUM: digital cameras (again)
date posted 27th June 2003 17:19
I've taken the plunge and ordered a Canon Powershot A70 digital camera
with free 64mb card from Amazon. Just hope I get it in time for my
holiday.
One question though, as I've never actually had a...
RE: FN-FORUM: Digital Camera Suppliers
date posted 27th June 2003 17:02
> Hi All,
> Can anyone recommend a cheap digital camera supplier. Deen doing some
> googling but wondered if any one had contact. Ideally after an Canon
> PowerShot S45. Best price I have so far is...
Re: FN-FORUM: Digital Camera Suppliers
date posted 27th June 2003 16:55
> > Can anyone recommend a cheap digital camera supplier. Deen doing some
> > googling but wondered if any one had contact. Ideally after an Canon
> > PowerShot S45. Best price I have so far is about...
FN-FORUM: Alexa.com?
date posted 27th June 2003 16:54
Just found Alexa.com for the first time and it seems a rather handy thing.
Had a lot of useful information on my site (Sportnetwork.net) we're the 34,385
most visted site on the internet according t...
Re: FN-FORUM: Digital Camera Suppliers
date posted 27th June 2003 16:43
> Can anyone recommend a cheap digital camera supplier. Deen doing some
> googling but wondered if any one had contact. Ideally after an Canon
> PowerShot S45. Best price I have so far is about 330 G...
Re: FN-FORUM: Midband
date posted 27th June 2003 16:31
You have to wait for that call back service, they called me straight back,
literally took them a minute to call, try the call back again and explain
you haven't got isdn installed? and that you want m...
RE: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 16:16
Quoting Gerard McGovern [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone
> > recommend a personal firewall solution for a single machine
> > (running Windows 2k) with a...
RE: FN-FORUM: recommend ticker_newsfeed
date posted 27th June 2003 16:03
I had the BBC ticker on my computer at work and it seemed to work really
well. You can even choose what "ticks" across so to speak.
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RE: FN-FORUM: Midband
date posted 27th June 2003 16:00
who did you call to get connected? i'VE BEEN HANGING ON FOR 35 MINS - THE
WEB SITE CALL YOU BACK - BUT THE PERSON WHO CALLS BACK KNOWS B*GGERALL ABOUT
MIDBAND!! gOING ROUND IN CIRCLES NOW . . . .
A...
FN-FORUM: Digital Camera Suppliers
date posted 27th June 2003 15:45
Hi All,
Can anyone recommend a cheap digital camera supplier. Deen doing some
googling but wondered if any one had contact. Ideally after an Canon
PowerShot S45. Best price I have so far is about 330...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 15:42
Thanks Paul,
I'll take advantage of this. I've been after buying some more
batteries for my holiday.
Cheers!
Kai
> Wilko have an offer on a Ni-MH charger with 6 batteries for only
£6.99 -
> much...
Re: FN-FORUM: [OT] TFT screens
date posted 27th June 2003 15:41
In article [EMAIL REMOVED]
[EMAIL REMOVED] (Pete Croft) wrote:
> The Chridmeister wrote:
>
> > Tell me about it! I was at a client's recently, and was showing them
> > some graphics.. and I realis...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 15:39
You may have to make sure that you have the STRONGEST possible
batteries you can get your hands on. I use Ni-MH, 1700 mAh
rechargables and they work great. Got mine from Argos for £15 with the
cha...
Re: FN-FORUM: Midband
date posted 27th June 2003 15:23
I presume that the £35 per month also includes your 2 line rentals plus £10
month for the connection.
Best Regards
D Thomas
Tel: 0870 162 0723
[EMAIL REMOVED]
http://www.thomas-design.co.uk
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RE: FN-FORUM: what OS a web server is running
date posted 27th June 2003 15:20
Try www.netcraft.com
Chris
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Subject: FN-FORUM: w...
Re: FN-FORUM: what OS a web server is running
date posted 27th June 2003 15:20
never mind - just dredged it up from the nether regions of my mind :)
David Eckersall wrote:
>whats the URL for the site that lets you check this out? i've lost the
>bugger
>
>tia
>
>
>==========
>...
Re: FN-FORUM: what OS a web server is running
date posted 27th June 2003 15:19
Hi,
www.netcraft.com
Rgds
Rus
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RE: FN-FORUM: Midband
date posted 27th June 2003 15:13
It says on the BT site - £75 installation and £35.00 per month for 150
hours! How are you getting it so cheap??
Andrew
_________________________
Andrew Wilson Productions
Web Design & Hosting - Pr...
RE: FN-FORUM: Webcast asf question
date posted 27th June 2003 15:12
Thanks George....:)
Regards
=20
Darren Spink
TEL: +44(0)113 253 4750
FAX: +44(0)113 253 1686
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FN-FORUM: what OS a web server is running
date posted 27th June 2003 15:09
whats the URL for the site that lets you check this out? i've lost the
bugger
tia...
RE: FN-FORUM: OT Laptop recommendations?
date posted 27th June 2003 14:52
Mentioned earlier in the postings, there's also an
ACER ASPIRE 1312XC AMD XP2000+, 20Gig, 256DDR, DVD/CDRW, 56K/LAN, 14"TFT
out and available for ?650 (inc VAT + DEL + 2yr War).
Which I think is about...
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 14:50
Anyone else use Agnitum?
I've found it pretty good, although the instability of my XP box means it blue
screens occasionally. Pretty sure it isn't Agnitum's fault, though, because
the Aquarium scre...
Re: FN-FORUM: Midband
date posted 27th June 2003 14:42
Yep I've just started using it, not too bad, 150hrs @ 64k or [EMAIL REMOVED] for
£10 a month.
No setup fees etc if you've already got ISDN installed otherwise you'll need
it installed before you can...
FN-FORUM: Midband
date posted 27th June 2003 14:38
Just investigating BT Midband - anyone else using this?
http://www.bt.com/btmidband/hm_presale.jsp
Andrew
_________________________
Andrew Wilson Productions
Web Design & Hosting - Print Design - G...
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 14:21
> > BlackIce ... it's excellent.
>
> Is not an application level firewall.
Yes it is now. That's why I stopped using it.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Kathy...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 14:17
Cheers, I can only hope its a bad set of batteries although i did try 2 new
sets just in case one pack were duds.
Best Regards
D Thomas
Tel: 0870 162 0723
[EMAIL REMOVED]
http://www.thomas-design.c...
RE: FN-FORUM: OT Laptop recommendations?
date posted 27th June 2003 14:12
Quoting Ross Hamilton [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sorry to come in late to this thread, I've missed the original posting.
>
> Anyway, in this week's Computing, there's an HP laptop advertised on p.24
> which...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 13:05
> Remember that digicams draw *very* high currents, which will kill most
> batteries. You need good quality, fresh, Alkalines or rechargeables
> (preferably NiMH, though NiCds work *reasonably* well i...
RE: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 12:56
> Any ideas? it was working fine but even with the new
> batteries doesn't show any life whatsoever..
You could try asking around on the forums on www.dpreview.com?...
Re: FN-FORUM: Site Check Please
date posted 27th June 2003 12:44
Thanks for the comments. I'll pass these onto the designer.
Cheers.
John Bremner
www.yorkedit.co.uk
http://cvsubmissionservice.yorkedit.co.uk/
www.eflowers-direct.co.uk
www.business-biz.com
http://s...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 12:40
Thomas Design wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Got a digital camera gone wrong here, I used it to take a few pics and then
> the battery light started flashing, got some new batteries and it still kept
> on flash...
Re: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 12:40
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Thomas Design wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Got a digital camera gone wrong here, I used it to take a few pics and then
> the battery light started flashing, got some new batteries and it...
RE: FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 12:39
Thomas Design wrote:
>
> Any ideas? it was working fine but even with the new
> batteries doesn't show any life whatsoever..
>
Happened loads of times to me. In my case it's down to buying batterie...
Re: FN-FORUM: ASP Date, Time and Currency Formats
date posted 27th June 2003 12:31
Nkonye Oyewusi wrote:
> But as usual, I still have one or two nagging 'questions'. How can you set
> default Date, Time and currency formats in ASP?
Tutorials :: ASP :: Getting to grips with formatti...
FN-FORUM: digital camera gurus
date posted 27th June 2003 12:21
Hi all
Got a digital camera gone wrong here, I used it to take a few pics and then
the battery light started flashing, got some new batteries and it still kept
on flashing after putting the new ones...
RE: FN-FORUM: 1+1 Ms Hosting
date posted 27th June 2003 11:56
Thanks Michael,
Doh, not what I wanted to hear!
1+1 have been grand with their Linux hosting, probs cos it's nice and =
stable
for 1 years and not M$!
Only really wanted to have the ASP package for...
Re: FN-FORUM: This isn't humour, it's reality ...
date posted 27th June 2003 11:35
I got fed up waiting for it to load.
John
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: This i...
RE: FN-FORUM: 1+1 Ms Hosting
date posted 27th June 2003 11:30
I've had a lot of those problems with 1+1 MS hosting, the redirection
not working was the most annoying. Personally I wouldn't use them
because the support is so slow and unreliable but a client of mi...
Re: FN-FORUM: This isn't humour, it's reality ...
date posted 27th June 2003 11:25
Pete Croft wrote:
> http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/livehelldesk.html~content
>
Ho ho! That is very funny, but one interesting point that piece raises,
is that although personal compute...
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 11:14
Gerard McGovern wrote:
>> Is not an application level firewall.
>
> And past that, I hate application level firewalls. As long no-one can
> = attack
> me from the outside (PIX and internal addresses)...
FN-FORUM: 1+1 Ms Hosting
date posted 27th June 2003 11:08
Hi,
I've been using 1+1 Linux hosting for a good while and never any problems at
all...
I have recently (3-4 weeks) signed up for a 1+1 ASP package and have had the
following problems...
1) Initial...
RE: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 10:51
> Is not an application level firewall.
And past that, I hate application level firewalls. As long no-one can =
attack
me from the outside (PIX and internal addresses) and I run Norton AV, I
really d...
RE: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 10:50
> >> On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone
> recommend a
> >> personal firewall solution for a single machine (running
> Windows 2k)
> >> with a USB ADSL.
> >
> > BlackIce ......
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 10:43
Richard Parratt wrote:
> On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone recommend a
> personal firewall solution for a single machine (running Windows 2k)
> with a USB ADSL.
I would go for...
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 10:43
Gerard McGovern wrote:
>> On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone
>> recommend a personal firewall solution for a single machine
>> (running Windows 2k) with a USB ADSL.
>
> BlackIc...
Re: FN-FORUM: Webcast asf question
date posted 27th June 2003 10:38
Darren Spink wrote:
> Is it possible to convert a .asf file so it can be burned on a dvd r and
> subsequently played on a home dvd player or would it need to be =
> converted to
> a .avi and just play...
Re: FN-FORUM: [OT] TFT screens
date posted 27th June 2003 10:35
The Chridmeister wrote:
> Tell me about it! I was at a client's recently, and was showing them
> some graphics.. and I realised that one piece that I had scanned in, had
> faint coffee rings on it!...
RE: FN-FORUM: DNS dropping
date posted 27th June 2003 10:33
Yes it is BT but we're not using their DNS as it just doesn't function at
all reliably.
The odd thing is that the network here runs all the time and just one
machine periodically drops the DNS setting...
FN-FORUM: Trojan detected by AVG
date posted 27th June 2003 10:33
AVG reported detecting a Trojan horse while searching an mp3 site a
couple of hours ago. It told me to run a scan to remove it, so I
foolishly clicked OK without noting the exact file (in temporary
in...
FN-FORUM: recommend ticker_newsfeed
date posted 27th June 2003 10:29
Hi Fun lovers...
anyone used/recommend an online financial/investment news service that could feed
a ticker on a homepage.
--
Nigel...
Re: FN-FORUM: [OT] TFT screens
date posted 27th June 2003 10:27
Simon Barker wrote:
>
> Colours have improved vastly but they're still not on par with good CRTs
Tell me about it! I was at a client's recently, and was showing them
some graphics.. and I realised...
Re: FN-FORUM: Google gone weird
date posted 27th June 2003 10:23
One of my main sites this year had lost all its rankings after last
googledance - PR 0 - until mid this week (but result positions
on required searches had been unchanged, still near or at top)!
I wa...
RE: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 10:21
> On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone
> recommend a personal firewall solution for a single machine
> (running Windows 2k) with a USB ADSL.
BlackIce ... it's excellent.
G...
Re: FN-FORUM: DNS dropping
date posted 27th June 2003 10:17
Ali Turner wrote:
> It may be that I'm not fully awake yet but I can't work this one out.
> The DNS on an internet connection periodically won't resolve.
> The connection has not been dropped as oth...
RE: FN-FORUM: ASP Date, Time and Currency Formats
date posted 27th June 2003 10:11
Hi Nicky
As far as I know they will be set using the lcid setting for the
application/page. For actually storing them you should keep them in the
appropriate ISO standard.
Norman
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FN-FORUM: ASP Date, Time & currency formats
date posted 27th June 2003 10:04
RE: Previous message,
I can't seem to find it on w3schools.com...
FN-FORUM: ASP Date, Time and Currency Formats
date posted 27th June 2003 10:03
First of all, thanks to everyone who answered my previous questions, I have
come from a complete novice to a sort of 'guru'. The client is well pleased
with the ecommerce site and might just engage me...
RE: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-) (learn to use email)
date posted 27th June 2003 09:57
> Bob who?
>=20
> Guy
>=20
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> Behalf Of Business A2Z
> Sent: 27 June 2003 08:09
> To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Subject: RE: FN-F...
FN-FORUM: DNS dropping
date posted 27th June 2003 09:56
Hi all
It may be that I'm not fully awake yet but I can't work this one out.
The DNS on an internet connection periodically won't resolve.
The connection has not been dropped as other machines on the...
FN-FORUM: Google gone weird
date posted 27th June 2003 09:46
My listing on google has been totally messed up, check out -=20
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=3Den&lr=3D&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8&q=3D+s=
ite:www.wired
eyes.com+wiredeyes
My pages are there but it...
FN-FORUM: Webcast asf question
date posted 27th June 2003 09:33
Morning all
Is it possible to convert a .asf file so it can be burned on a dvd r and
subsequently played on a home dvd player or would it need to be =
converted to
a .avi and just played through a pc...
RE: FN-FORUM: Box model
date posted 27th June 2003 09:31
Ta,
I'll give it a go.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Grimshaw [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: 27 June 2003 09:36
To: Andy Macnaughton-Jones
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: Box model
Andy Macnaughton-Jones:
>...
RE: FN-FORUM: Box model
date posted 27th June 2003 09:24
Andy Macnaughton-Jones:
> http://test.dales4business.org
>
> Any suggestions ?
Looks better than it did yesterday, but still different in IE and Moz.
Try taking out the s and setting:
div.menu a {...
RE: FN-FORUM: OT Laptop recommendations?
date posted 27th June 2003 09:13
Sorry to come in late to this thread, I've missed the original posting.
Anyway, in this week's Computing, there's an HP laptop advertised on p.24
which sounded fairly good value to me:
AMD 1700+ pro...
RE: FN-FORUM: Shopping Carts / Worldpay
date posted 27th June 2003 08:47
Both Actinic and Shopfactory integrate well.
Shopfactory is probably easier
(http://www.shopfactory.com/index.html?mid=10394 )
I have found WorldPay pretty easy to work with and their telephone supp...
Re: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 08:34
On Friday 27 Jun 2003 7:15 am, The e-Guy Limited wrote:
> Having worked with computer since 1978 (big mainframe - flashing lights
> just like in those old sci-fi movies). I work on the principle that...
FN-FORUM: Box model
date posted 27th June 2003 08:24
Hi Guys,
Thanks very much for the help on the stupid CSS box model. It gives me
something to think about next time I build some CSS to take that into
account. I've still a few other oddities relatin...
RE: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 08:07
Bob who?
Guy
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Re: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 08:02
Guy,
You're a lucky fellow.
Most places I've worked in the business drives the whole thing, with final
say as to what goes on to live servers being done by deployment teams.
What tends to happen is...
RE: FN-FORUM: This isn't humour, it's reality ...
date posted 27th June 2003 07:58
Luv it!!!!
Guy Weatherburn
The e-Guy Limited
Phone: 01793-873514
Mobile: 07968-535474
Web: http://www.e-guy.co.uk
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RE: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 07:56
Is Bob still there?
Andrew
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>Subject: RE: F...
RE: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 07:50
My current day job (20 hours a week for the Financial Services Authority) is
with their service delivery team. We have final say on what is allowed onto
a production box be it an existing system or n...
FN-FORUM: This isn't humour, it's reality ...
date posted 27th June 2003 07:38
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/livehelldesk.html~content
--
Peter Croft
PC Associates
Tel: 01992 418730
Mob: 07989 409136
Email: [EMAIL REMOVED]...
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 07:35
I use trendmicro's pc-cillin for firewall/antivirus.
> On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone recommend a
> personal firewall solution for a single machine (running Windows 2k)
> w...
Re: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 07:12
I've only been involved in computer development since 1982 - a mere
stripling compared to Guy!
For the last 10 years I've worked for several large blue chip companies in
large developments as well as...
RE: FN-FORUM: Fw: one for the developers to chew over :-)
date posted 27th June 2003 07:02
Having worked with computer since 1978 (big mainframe - flashing lights just
like in those old sci-fi movies). I work on the principle that nothing gets
anywhere near the live/production system until...
RE: FN-FORUM: Firewall's ... again
date posted 27th June 2003 06:52
Yes you are right you will still need a firewall on each PC. It is unfair to
expect an IPCop/Smoothwall firewall to check on and report any suspicious
attempt to leak data. As to do this is would need...
Re: FN-FORUM: [OT] TFT screens
date posted 27th June 2003 06:22
Simon Barker wrote:
> TFTs don't work off refresh rates...
> They suffer from ghosting
That's moot these days, on the better TFTs, to be honest. Well,
unless you really whizz things about or want...
Re: FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 06:00
Richard Parratt wrote:
> On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone recommend a
> personal firewall solution for a single machine (running Windows 2k)
> with a USB ADSL.
> I tried Zo...
FN-FORUM: Personal firewalls
date posted 27th June 2003 02:18
On a related topic to the firewall discussion, can anyone recommend a
personal firewall solution for a single machine (running Windows 2k)
with a USB ADSL.
I tried ZoneAlarm - total piece of s*** - w...
RE: FN-FORUM: copyright about reproducing visa and mastercard
date posted 27th June 2003 02:03
> Wednesday 25th June 2003 12:25:45
> Re: FN-FORUM: copyright about reproducing visa and
> mastercard... - Catherine Hutchinson [EMAIL REMOVED]
>
> Hi
>
> There is no such thing as
> "accepts cards...
Re: FN-FORUM: Firewall's ... again
date posted 27th June 2003 00:52
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, James Murphy wrote:
> Quoting Dom [EMAIL REMOVED]
>
> > On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 10:34 pm, you wrote:
> >
> > > Security by obscurity... very bad thing to rely on and in the co...
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