Re: FN-FORUM: BNI

date posted 30th June 2003 17:07

Please report back.

Cheers

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Kathy
http://www.vendetta.co.uk
+44(0)7005 982 261
DNRC Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Hutchinson" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: BNI


> Yeah, any tips would be appreciated as I am going as a visitor this
> Friday.
>
> Regards
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On
> Behalf Of Lists
> Sent: 30 June 2003 16:48
> To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: BNI
>
> Norman,
>
> Any tips for a non-people person? I'm going to our local chapter as a
> visitor next week.
>
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> Kathy
> http://www.vendetta.co.uk
> +44(0)7005 982 261
> DNRC Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Norman Beresford" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:57 PM
> Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: BNI
>
>
> > We've been members for about 3 years. Our membership is worth about
> ?20k
> > pa. Takes a while to get 'accepted' but it's a gold mine if you're
> willing
> > to put the time/effort into it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Behalf Of Mark Hutchinson
> > Sent: 30 June 2003 12:42
> > To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Subject: FN-FORUM: BNI
> >
> >
> > I have only just come across BNI, how long have you used them ? have
> you
> > found attending to be of any use ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On
> > Behalf Of Andy
> > Sent: 30 June 2003 12:11
> > To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: PropellerNET
> >
> > There was a visitor at our BNI chapter from another company that also
> > guarentees first page placements on google - surely they can't all
> > guarentee
> > it - if there are multiple companies with the same profile ?!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > From: "Jo Billington" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:49 AM
> > Subject: FN-FORUM: PropellerNET
> >
> >
> > > Morning all!
> > >
> > > Do any of you have any experience of a web marketing/positioning
> > company
> > > called PropellerNET? One of my clients has been approached by them
> > and
> > are
> > > quite keen to take on their services. However, they claim they can
> > > guarantee first page listings in Google. In the past, I've been
> lead
> > to
> > > believe that this is a rather wild claim and this has made me quite
> > > suspicious of their methods.
> > >
> > > My client has asked me to get more information about their practices
> > and
> > so
> > > I have contacted them asking them tell me more about their methods.
> > Their
> > > response is pretty unsatisfactory and I've copied it below for
> anyone
> > who
> > > has the time to take a look at it.
> > >
> > > I need to advise my client to either go with this service or avoid
> > them.
> > > Either way, I have to explain my verdict. I am keen to hear what
> > anyone
> > > else thinks.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > --
> > > ---------------------------
> > >
> > > Hi Jo,
> > >
> > > I have had a number of conversations with Andy and he told me to
> > expect
> > your
> > > email. To answer your question properly I'll give you a run down on
> > who
> > we
> > > are and why we offer the guarantee you mentioned.
> > >
> > > Propellernet are a small and relatively new Agency. We have been
> > trading
> > > for a little over 6 months. My own background has been in
> Marketing,
> > PR
> > and
> > > Sales for some of the larger agencies in the field. You may have
> > heard of
> > > NetBooster, the pan European SEM agency. When they expanded into
> the
> > UK I
> > > was taken on to get things going from a commercial perspective, and
> > things
> > > went very well. However, I was let down by my technical team who
> > failed
> > to
> > > deliver results to an acceptable level. The problem was that these
> > > companies hired technical staff with no experience and taught them
> to
> > employ
> > > a standard procedure rather than a bespoke program for each client.
> > The
> > > other large agencies were equally poor. I moved on from NetBooster
> > after
> > 18
> > > months and after a term as Portal Development Director with
> exhibition
> > > portal www.expo24-7.com, I had found the team I was looking for to
> > launch
> > my
> > > own agency.
> > >
> > > Nick Wilsdon, has been writing programs since he was 8 years old.
> He
> > single
> > > handedly developed and marketed an html editor program which
> competed
> > online
> > > with the likes of Microsoft with no budget whatsoever. Nick has
> > developed
> > > back end solution for some of the biggest telcos in the business and
> > is a
> > > renowned Google SEO expert. Ammon Johns has been involved in SEO
> for
> > 6
> > > years, and was the headline speaker at the SES industry conference
> > this
> > > year. Ammon is a rounded internet marketer bringing together the
> > marketing
> > > aspects with all things technical. James Jensen is our client
> > services
> > > manager and makes sure that all of our clients are getting an
> > excellent
> > > service and are informed at all times. I work on marketing
> strategy,
> > sales
> > > and the financial side.
> > >
> > > Being new to market but targeting high profile clients we are
> > competing
> > > against established companies with huge client lists and referrals.
> I
> > do
> > > not think we will offer a guaranteed first page listing on Google
> for
> > very
> > > long but right now we feel it gives us the competitive edge required
> > to
> > take
> > > on a good portfolio of new business clients.
> > >
> > > We are the market leader in terms of the results we can deliver but
> > why
> > > should clients take our word for that. This is why we substantiate
> > our
> > > claims of being the best by offering the best guarantee available.
> > >
> > > We understand the Google algorithm, and work with our clients web
> > teams to
> > > help replicate that algorithm on their own websites for targeted and
> > popular
> > > keywords.
> > >
> > > All of the methods we employ are ethical and within best practice
> > guidelines
> > > which we have established with the help of the search engines. Our
> > methods
> > > are based around navigation, page structure, keywords and content.
> We
> > > identify areas that are causing problems and recommend solutions for
> > > correcting these problems. Very much a diagnostic approach.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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