Re: FN-FORUM: Shit Hot PHP/ASP.Net Developer

date posted 24th January 2004 00:29

Belbin tests and 'bollocks like that' are just excuses to send employees on
a pointless day out, lining the pockets of David Brent characters the world
over, and ultimately pushing up prices for consumers due to the amount of
money pissed away on these silly training
schemes..............................so there *blows a rasberry and
collapses in a drunken heap*

Dan (drinker-sleeper)

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>
> Unfortunately I'm neither of those Belbin roles. I fall equally into
> Chairman and Shaper. So there you go. Mind you, I don't do teams, they
> involve people.
>
> Good if you can afford to work for nothing (I'm almost doing that for one
> org at the moment) but often we have to eat and pay the bills. And it can
be
> hard to tell when vague promises of work to come are real.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Kyle" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Shit Hot PHP/ASP.Net Developer
>
>
> >
> > Is this thread not dead yet????? I am not a freelance newbie but I am
open
> > to ideas and possibilities; this does not mean that I do work for free
> (far
> > from it), but it has been documented time and time again that somebodies
> > 'life long idea' has often resulted in serious returns. Speculate,
> > accumulate etc etc if our culture did not work like this we would never
be
> > able to form constructive partnerships and would be only capable of
simple
> > independance rather than being able to develop interdependant
> relationships
> > with other organisations / people. I hav been involved with an
> organisation
> > for nearly 3 years now and hav not been paid in any shape or form for
any
> of
> > my consultancy services, this organisation who may I say 95% of people
on
> > this list would have told to piss off long ago is now returning with a
job
> > worth about £250K. Not bad for someones inital 'good idea'. I think
people
> > are savvy enough to know when someone is simply wanting you to get work
> done
> > for no money and if so you will always have the opportunity to walk away
> > from the work / idea. Also if you are desparate for work why you would
> spend
> > time offfering nothing more than altruism is beyond me. Many ideas
before,
> > during and after the .com boom have been turned into rather successful
and
> > highly lucrative businesses. I think you should always remain open to
> > listening to ideas and it is very easy to spot different and relevant
> Belbin
> > Team profiles in these cases - a genuine Plant often entrepreneurs with
> the
> > usual shortcoming of never having enough money to get often very good
> ideas
> > off the groound or a simple Company Worker charachter who is pissed off
> with
> > their current status in life thinks they deserve more -
materialistically
> > focussed and wants to get their brilliant life comsuming idea off the
> ground
> > as a means to get out of their current life choice. Both are quite easy
to
> > spot in my experience and I have met many that fall into both
categories,
> > one group is very interesting the other transparently desparate and
dull.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > John Kyle
> >
>
>
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