Re: FN-FORUM: CSS help / Site check

date posted 23rd January 2005 23:29

On 23 Jan 2005, at 22:24, Tony Crockford wrote:

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> At 22:04 on Sunday, 23 Jan 2005, david smith wrote:
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>> On 23 Jan 2005, at 21:17, Tony Crockford wrote:
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>>> At 20:40 on Sunday, 23 Jan 2005, david smith wrote:
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>>>> It seems to me that some (only some) of you long-term members need=20=

>>>> to have good look at themselves=85
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>> Hi Tony
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>> My observations weren't just about DGs request today but a number of=20=

>> other responses I've seen over the last couple of weeks


> That's fine, but when you've been on this forum for years, rather than=20=

> weeks=85




> impose standards of conduct on the long standing members is a sure=20
> fire way to wind them up=85

I hope I wasn't trying to impose anything, I was merely making a=20
suggestion as to how to avoid the to'ing and fro'ing of increasingly=20
vitriolic posts. I'd like to think that I was making constructive=20
criticism, which of course you are free to accept or ignore as you see=20=

fit. I also thought that DG needed some support. I fully appreciate=20
that for people who have been here a long time, all the things you=20
mention can be frustrating, and you've probably been through this all=20
before. But a newbie hasn't, all he/she sees is a hostile reception. As=20=

I say, I don't wish to fall out with anyone over this and you are free=20=

to take my thoughts on board or not.

> that all advice (harsh or not) is freely given

Of course it is, I was highlighting those times when it seems to stop=20
being advice and just remains harsh and the fact that it is free is=20
hardly an excuse.
I of course recognise that this is a 2-way street and newbies have an=20
equal responsibility to rein in any non-constructive commentry.

> I learned a lot in my first six months on this forum

Is this the timescale after which it is deemed ok to be as harsh as you=20=

like with no come back, but before that anything harsh is not=20
acceptable? LOL

> Look on it as a joining ritual, you've gotta be flamed at least once=20=

> to become part of the gang

Risky one this, but here goes: There have been posts that touch on the=20=

idea of this being an elitist, closed shop of freelancer friends. I'd=20
like to think that it isn't, but your above comment is in danger of=20
confirming this.


Out of interest are there any long-time members that can see where I'm=20=

coming from?


ON A Separate note: There haven't been any newbies complaining about=20
all the emails they're getting for a while. In anticipation of the next=20=

influx, is it feasible for the unsub option to be the first thing in=20
all that bumph at the bottom of emails? Just a thought, but I know when=20=

I got my first influx, I saw prosperity4 web link and assumed that all=20=

that copy was for adverts and links to other websites. Of course it=20
should be read properly and the newbie will see what they all are, but=20=

maybe in the state of annoyance that they are in they don't think=20
straight.
For my part I was just excited at getting all these lovely new friends,=20=

so didn't care about the amount of emails. Lol.
Alternatively maybe the unsub/new post links could be separated out in=20=

some way. Just a suggestion but you experienced guys will tell me=20
whether it would work.

As ever my comments aim to be constructive and I don't intend to upset=20=

anyone.
Please accept them in the spirit they are given.

Dave