Re: FN-FORUM: TV Licence

date posted 16th September 2005 22:22

You think that commercial television is the way to quality broadcasting?
The programmes on commercial television are there to fill the time up
between adverts. I note with alarm that some cable/freeview/satellite
channels are now having two ad breaks in a half-hour programme, it's
enough to drive me crazy.
The BBC is still the best television provider in the world, and the only
way we can avoid american style television is if we continue to fund it
in this way.
I have absolutely no worries about paying such a meagre amount of money
to keep a worthy service like this running.

Tom.

ArtCaf wrote:
> Thanks Nathan that seems to have defined it and what a 'tv program' is
> i'm pretty sure all the channels ive watched from my home page (all the
> channels on the net that ive seen)
> are streamed from a random start point in a loop/que, or as you say
> individual video's on demand...
> and thanks to toovaloo island
>
> so i guess this means transmitting a live webcam stream would require a tv
> licence
> LOL
> personally i think the BBC should go out and find advertisers like all the
> rest of us have to
> or otherwise make their channels subscription or pay/per/view
> and go out and do what the rest of us have to do and persuade people to
> subscribe etc that might force them to have to make a decent program for a
> change
> they'll be forcing us to pay air tax next!!
>
>
> Re: FN-FORUM: TV licence
> date posted 16th September 2005 19:08
>
> Right,
>
> Again usual disclaimer, I'm not a lawyer - this is just information I've
> pieced together from reading around.
>
> As I understand it:
>
> * You need a Tv license if you have a Tv that you "use".
> * "Tv" referes to any piece of equipment capable of receiving a
> "Television Program Service"
> * "use" is defined as using said Tv to receive a "Television Program
> Service"
>
> Right, now the crunch, just what is a "Television Program Service" ?
> According to the Tv Licencing act then "Receiving a Television Program
> Service" is:
>
> "In this regulation, any reference to receiving a television programme
> service includes a reference to receiving by any means any programme
> included in that service, where that programme is received at the same
> time (or virtually the same time) as it is received by members of the
> public by virtue of its being broadcast or distributed as part of that
> service."
>
> A Programme is basically "moving pictures with sound"
>
> So, it seems like:
> * You have to be watching something thats avaliable to other people.
> * ...and the same image/sound appears on your "Tv" at the same time as
> other people's "Tvs" (Tv is same definition as above).
>
> Answers to questions then:
> Do you need i licence if....
> * You own a Tv/Video/DVD but only use it to watch videos/DVDs you have
> bought from a shop or to play video games on.
> A: No, you are not watching a "Televison Program Service".
>
> * You have a Tv card and use it to watch "Streaming Content" from the
> BBC website.
> A: Pretty sure no (unless BBC have changed their streaming content).
> When you go to watch the content it always starts at the beginning,
> other people are not receiving the same content at the same time.
>
> * You use Vidzone.tv as described in the original email.
> A: If i have got this right vidzone just allows you to watch videos
> __which you select__. Its basically a bunch of pre-recorded videos that
> you have access to and queue up to watch in any order you wish. So No,
> you don't need one.
>
> The following article from theregister is interesting as well:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/24/tv_licence/
>
> Its been interesting reading around and there appears to be a lot of
> common misconceptions.
>
> Detuning you Tv, as described in someones email, ought to be enough to
> prove that you are not using it to watch Tv.
>
> Hope all that is of interest to other people.
>
> Nathan
>
>
>
>

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