RE: FN-FORUM: TV licence

date posted 16th September 2005 23:01

If you're not in the UK then can you still go to the bbc website and
view the various streams (e.g., news) ? Does that not mean that we the
UK residents who do pay our TV licence (and I agree that it's well worth
the price) are subsidising the rest of the world watching "our" TV
service ?

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From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Mike A
Sent: 16 September 2005 23:25
To: Andy Macnaughton-Jones
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: TV licence


Nathan, I apologise to you but this must be stated for the protection of
others reading this thread.

Nathan's interpretation of statute should be wholly disregarded. His
conclusions contain enough error to be misleading and dangerous. Anyone
who requires information should seek professional advice from such
resources as I have already provided, BBC TV Licensing or one of the
many agencies available for free advice, such as the CAB. Altso, the
Performing Rights Association can provide feedback as regards fees and
obligations concerning copyrights and onward broadcasting.

As a person regularly practicing in court I have already provided
feedback.
I urge people to seek advice from priofessional sources relating to
their particular concerns and circumstances. As regards law, I
particularly urge readers to enjoy the threads and relevant feedback but
not to operate upon supposed legal conclusions (including my own).
Circumstances vary.

Mike A.

Nathan wrote:
> Right,
>
> Again usual disclaimer, I'm not a lawyer - this is just information=20
> I've pieced together from reading around.
>
> As I understand it:
>
> * You need a Tv license if you have a Tv that you "use".
> * "Tv" referes to any piece of equipment capable of receiving a=20
> "Television Program Service"
> * "use" is defined as using said Tv to receive a "Television Program=20
> Service"
>
> Right, now the crunch, just what is a "Television Program Service" ?
> According to the Tv Licencing act then "Receiving a Television Program

> Service" is:
>
> "In this regulation, any reference to receiving a television programme

> service includes a reference to receiving by any means any programme=20
> included in that service, where that programme is received at the same

> time (or virtually the same time) as it is received by members of the=20
> public by virtue of its being broadcast or distributed as part of that

> service."
>
> A Programme is basically "moving pictures with sound"
>
> So, it seems like:
> * You have to be watching something thats avaliable to other people.
> * ...and the same image/sound appears on your "Tv" at the same time as

> other people's "Tvs" (Tv is same definition as above).
>
> Answers to questions then:
> Do you need i licence if....
> * You own a Tv/Video/DVD but only use it to watch videos/DVDs you have

> bought from a shop or to play video games on.
> A: No, you are not watching a "Televison Program Service".
>
> * You have a Tv card and use it to watch "Streaming Content" from the=20
> BBC website.
> A: Pretty sure no (unless BBC have changed their streaming content).
> When you go to watch the content it always starts at the beginning,=20
> other people are not receiving the same content at the same time.
>
> * You use Vidzone.tv as described in the original email.
> A: If i have got this right vidzone just allows you to watch videos=20
> __which you select__. Its basically a bunch of pre-recorded videos=20
> that you have access to and queue up to watch in any order you wish.
> So No, you don't need one.
>
> The following article from theregister is interesting as well:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/24/tv_licence/
>
> Its been interesting reading around and there appears to be a lot of=20
> common misconceptions.
>
> Detuning you Tv, as described in someones email, ought to be enough to

> prove that you are not using it to watch Tv.
>
> Hope all that is of interest to other people.
>
> Nathan
>
>
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