Re: FN-FORUM: Advertising Bastards

date posted 10th January 2006 22:52

I'm based in Glasgow.

I'm just bloody angry. After doing research on constructive dismissal etc.
they are 'technically' giving me a dismissal - - I've never been
dismissed/fired/made redundant in my entire life! - If so, how the hell
does this affect later job prospects with anyone else? I have spent 9
months at this company - What the hell do I say - oh yeah my last full time
job was with this company - oh and why did you leave -I was dismissed - if
so should I hand in my notice prior to waiting for the months end?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike A" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: Advertising Bastards


>
> Well, constructive dismissal won't help because it'll pay peanuts, however
> right you are.
>
> Many advertising companies start with two or three people leaving through
> job problems. If you don't have a restrictive covenant the firm may come
to
> you to sign one... don't!
>
> Whatever happens, good luck!!!
>
> Mike A.
> By the way... we're thinking of expansion, where are you?
>
>
> Laura Stadler wrote:
> > I was pulled into the boardroom the other day and told that profit
> > ratio of the creative earnings for the company I work for was 1.3 and
> > that we should be getting 2.0 - basically they said they are
> > expecting £290,000 profit and are only getting £210,000.
> >
> > I was then told that may work is below the standard that the company
> > expects from me and that they are giving me a month to improve
> > otherwise my booty is out the door. I was told I have no clue about
> > marketing and that basically my work is a load of rubbish. Turns out
> > my senior designer who I work with on the same brand has been told
> > the same thing about his work and they don't believe his portfolio
> > which he showed them at his interview was really his work now.
> >
> > Working in the graphic design trade for 4 years now I had worked for
> > three years as the graphics and marketing manager for an
> > architectural practice and then after three years wanted to treat my
> > architectural bunions and get experience in the advertising sector.
> > Not withstanding, during the four years I have also freelanced as
> > well - always having a job to do and clients always impressed with my
> > work and coming back with repeat business whislt referring friends
> > back at the same time. Notwithstanding, I have never let anything
> > interfere with my current employment, always putting it first and
> > working all hours of the day and night to get things done and to the
> > standard that I feel should be achieved. As I have only been working
> > in advertising for a year - I have been keen to learn and have never
> > been afraid to ask questions and keen to get opinions on my work so I
> > can learn and improve in the industry that I work in. I have now
> > been told by the creative director to stop asking him questions and
> > only present the final product to him. If I have any questions or
> > want to know if I'm heading in the right direction to go ask someone
> > else. Fair is fair, however, previously I have been told that all
> > should do a series of scamps first and then present them to the
> > director and the suggested idea which you feel is right to follow so
> > that he is sure they are heading in the right direction. OK???
> >
> > So, I sit at my desk today, do some shite sticker to advertise on a
> > rugby crossbar - make sure I everything is adhering ot brand
> > guidelines for the advert, do a series of options then narrow it down
> > to two, print it out and ask one of the guys if they have a couple of
> > minutes to spare - to have a look for their opinion - it's a shite
> > sticker for god sakes - easy peasy - and he says - fine - no - I
> > agree with you - fine but has the creative director had a look at it
> > because you really need to discuss your scamps and ideas with him
> > prior to proceeding to the final stage. I'm standing there thinking
> > - well I've been told not to - notwithstanding - not saying anything
> > because I'm specifically been told in that meeting not to say anthing
> > which has been told within those four walls about not seeing the
> > creative director until I have a final outcome which he can just sign
> > off and that's it. SO WHAT DO I DO?????
> >
> > I've got to the point I'm being screwed here because my work IS GOOD.
> > yeah - I may not have the advertising experience as the others who
> > have worked there for eight years or more but I am learning and I'm
> > asking questions because I'm learning and trying to improve myself -
> > but my work is good - if it wasn't I wouldn't be getting my repeat
> > business out of freelancing.
> >
> > To sum up both the senior designer and myself are so pissed off as
> > they have basically given us a months notice without being blantantly
> > honest to us. I take it this is normal for the advertising
> > trade????!! How do people get away with this??
> > OK business is business but I have always believed in what goes
> > around comes around. I've got to the point now that I am seriously
> > considering setting up permanently on my own such that a. I can offer
> > a hell of a better service to my clients - b. there's no bullshit
> > involved. It appears there are too many people in advertising that
> > are bullshitters and clients are appearing to suffer from this or are
> > going elsewhere because they are not wanting to pay the extortionate
> > fees for a ferkin crap service.
> >
> > There. I feel better. I needed to get that out.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Graeme J Sweeney" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: problem booking form
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Graham Blakelock wrote:
> >>
> >>> Been listening in for a while now. I have a small problem I was
> >>> wondering if someone could help me with.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> $message = "Name: ". $_POST["name"] ."\r\n".
> >>> "Organisation: ". $_POST["organisation"] ."\r\n".
> >>> "Date/Date of Purchase: ". $_POST["date"] ."\r\n"
> >>> "Number of Guests: ". $_POST["guests"] ."\r\n".
> >>> "Telephone: ". $_POST["telephone"] ."\r\n".
> >>> "Address: ". $_POST["address"] ."\r\n".
> >>> "Email: ". $_POST["email"] ."\r\n"."\r\n".
> >>
> >> Shouldn't the last bit read
> >>
> >> "Email: ". $_POST["email"] ."\r\n"."\r\n";
> >>
> >> i.e. terminated with a semi colon?
> >>
> >> --
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