Re: FN-FORUM: Any Programmers and What Languages do you use?

date posted 9th September 2006 20:49

On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 23:40 +0000, Ian Piper wrote:
>
> On 6 Sep 2006, at 3:55 pm, Gary Short wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've been subscribed here for a while, and it seems to me that the
> > list is
> > dominated by designer types. So, I was just wondering if there were
> > many
> > programmers on the list and if so, what languages do you use?
> >
> > Just for the record, I'm based in Dundee, Scotland. I'm an MCAD and
> > program
> > using C#, .Net(1.0, 1.1, 2.0), SQL (SQL server and MySql), C/C++,
> > Python, RoR
> > and Smalltalk.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gary
> > http://www.garyshort.org/
>
>
> I'm based in Warwickshire. I write in PHP, RoR, Java, REALbasic,
> Objective-C (spot the Mac developer), JavaScript and if I really have
> to, C# and VB. My favoured environment to build apps is RoR, though
> there is not much call for it yet.
>
> Though to tell the truth I don't hold much of a distinction between
> developer and designer (I know that is a minority view) - I do my own
> designs and layouts and even the information architecture, for
> applications that I build. I think nowadays you really have to have
> many strings to your bow.

> --

I'm a programmer type also. Or at least came to web development from
that background.

Commonly I use php/SQL and javascript for web stuff ( using a homebrew,
vi ( tSkeleton ) based development env with macros and templates of
code, smarty templates, stanzas of xhtml and css).

Silll use tiny bits of C, perl, sed awk for donkey work tasks as req.

I can't say I find the list dominated by designer types - most but I
tend only to look at programming related posts :-) and there do seem
some respectable programming heads on the list.

I'd think that all these labels are a bit confused anaway.

Designer could be someone who designs a web application or someone who
makes sure a page has just the right layout, colours fonts etc.

One might expect a programmer to be someone who cuts executable code to
preform the spec of the designer of a web application.

Hence I usually describe myself as a website developer. Most of what I
do is

Collect Clients Requirements.

Translate this into the spec / design a web app
( design as in plan NOT as in drawing :-) )

Cut the code, templates, css

Play with colours fonts and static graphics

Install web app to live server

Advise / train client in use of and assist with wording towards SEO
favourable content.

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There are others that make prettier brain dead or broken sites, the web
industry has more than its share are many cargo cult coders, fools with
fancy tools and cut and paste merchants .

So it goes.

IanR
( Also in Dundee )

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