RE: FN-FORUM: astra 2 from south of France

date posted 10th September 2006 12:41

Yep we have Astra2 working here - just west of toulouse

Mike

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anyone have any info on setting up astra 2 positioned in the south of
france?

andrew

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>
> On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 23:40 +0000, Ian Piper wrote:
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2006, at 3:55 pm, Gary Short wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I've been subscribed here for a while, and it seems to me that the
>> > list is
>> > dominated by designer types. So, I was just wondering if there were
>> > many
>> > programmers on the list and if so, what languages do you use?
>> >
>> > Just for the record, I'm based in Dundee, Scotland. I'm an MCAD and
>> > program
>> > using C#, .Net(1.0, 1.1, 2.0), SQL (SQL server and MySql), C/C++,
>> > Python, RoR
>> > and Smalltalk.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Gary
>> > http://www.garyshort.org/
>>
>>
>> I'm based in Warwickshire. I write in PHP, RoR, Java, REALbasic,
>> Objective-C (spot the Mac developer), JavaScript and if I really have
>> to, C# and VB. My favoured environment to build apps is RoR, though
>> there is not much call for it yet.
>>
>> Though to tell the truth I don't hold much of a distinction between
>> developer and designer (I know that is a minority view) - I do my own
>> designs and layouts and even the information architecture, for
>> applications that I build. I think nowadays you really have to have
>> many strings to your bow.
>
>> --
>
> I'm a programmer type also. Or at least came to web development from
> that background.
>
> Commonly I use php/SQL and javascript for web stuff ( using a homebrew,
> vi ( tSkeleton ) based development env with macros and templates of
> code, smarty templates, stanzas of xhtml and css).
>
> Silll use tiny bits of C, perl, sed awk for donkey work tasks as req.
>
> I can't say I find the list dominated by designer types - most but I
> tend only to look at programming related posts :-) and there do seem
> some respectable programming heads on the list.
>
> I'd think that all these labels are a bit confused anaway.
>
> Designer could be someone who designs a web application or someone who
> makes sure a page has just the right layout, colours fonts etc.
>
> One might expect a programmer to be someone who cuts executable code to
> preform the spec of the designer of a web application.
>
> Hence I usually describe myself as a website developer. Most of what I
> do is
>
> Collect Clients Requirements.
>
> Translate this into the spec / design a web app
> ( design as in plan NOT as in drawing :-) )
>
> Cut the code, templates, css
>
> Play with colours fonts and static graphics
>
> Install web app to live server
>
> Advise / train client in use of and assist with wording towards SEO
> favourable content.
>
> -----------
>
> There are others that make prettier brain dead or broken sites, the web
> industry has more than its share are many cargo cult coders, fools with
> fancy tools and cut and paste merchants .
>
> So it goes.
>
> IanR
> ( Also in Dundee )
>
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