RE: FN-FORUM: OFFFF FORUM: graphic designer/illustrator needing help with website

date posted 2nd October 2006 15:55

Having read the thread as it continued today, I found myself asking the
question "Does it really matter"

I think most people would agree that netiquette dictates that it's more
about the way that your present yourself as (foremost) a person, and also a
professional. I'm not convinced that many people are going to be that
bothered whether you're a top poster, bottom poster or even cut & paster.
At the end of the day..it's just seems a little like symantics.

Whilst I agree that there needs to be a sense of professionalism in the way
that you address the recipient of the email...does the format necessarily
matter? Is a client going to look more favourably on professional 'b' just
because they're a top-poster? I'm not so sure they will.

Perhaps it just comes down to personal preference, and there's really not
that much issue with the subject in the first place?

Just my two cents!




Mike

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It cuts both ways Paul, expect me not to want to do business with someone
that gets so uptight about a friggin email. We're not creating world peace
or feeding the starving here.

I have worked with so many Blue Chip companies I have lost count, and they
ALL use outlook which practically enforces top posting. And yes I did see
what happened to top posters in 1992. It was also 14 years ago.

This list just keeps getting better & better...not.

Paul Robinson wrote:
>
> On 2 Oct 2006, at 12:10, Richard Flack wrote:
>
>> You have your method of posting, they have theirs. It's a difference
>> of opinion, and I think it's highly arrogant for you to expect them
>> to conform to *your* personal standards when it's just netiquette
>> we're talking about here.
>
> That's the same as me saying "Well, I think it's OK for me to turn up
> 2 hours late and call them a bastard when I get there - it's just a
> meeting. How dare they be so arrogant as to expect me to conform to
> *their* personal standards, who do they think they are?"
>
> Politeness isn't about rules, it's just an accepted form within society.
>
> Top-posting, not removing copious quotes off the bottom, etc. is like
> not bothering to learn basic business etiquette. Sure, I'll tolerate
> it, just don't expect me not to call it rude. Expect me to not want to
> do business with you. Hell, if you're trying to sell me something,
> don't be surprised if you've lost the sale right there.
>
> I do 98% of my business online. Why should 'netiquette' not have the
> same importance within my business transactions as personal etiquette
> would have if I did 98% of my business face-to-face?
>
>> There is no right or wrong answer here. Yes, bottom posting is more
>> logical, but that doesn't make it 'right', just more sensible.
>
> If you think I'm being harsh here, you should have seen what happened
> to top-posters back in 1992...
>
>> As for the meetings, well that comparison is just plain silly isn't
>> it? That's like comparing fish to wood.
>
> The comparison holds: politeness is politeness, business etiquette is
> business etiquette. Around 95% of people I know think being late for a
> meeting is rude, around 90% of the people I know find top-posting and
> non-trimmed-quoting rude.
>
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