RE: FN-FORUM: My first freelance job

date posted 11th October 2006 15:35

Hi Kitty,

No worries - I know that clients can be choosy about what they want. I =
would
say though, as an ex-colleague once pointed out to me - "people will say =
one
thing, which is what they think they want. This is not always what is =
right,
or what they really want...". I can understand that she might choose =
MySpace
- as you, it isn't an amazing thing to use, but it will do for the time
being. However, I am not so sure about the content - I always feel that =
web
designers should be able to alter text if required, but only on the =
grounds
where it is warranted, such as editing lengthy paragraphs, etc.

This said - it is an otherwise good effort!

Alex.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Sami
Keighley
Sent: 11 October 2006 15:16
To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: My first freelance job


Myspace was chose by Liza as she wanted a myspace layout coding, with =
this
comes restrictions on what I can do really as Myspace isn't an amazing =
thing
to use. I tried to stear her towards more professional options but she =
is
low on cash, and I, at the moment, am 'whoring'
myself out to those who want quick and cheap jobs doing (new bands, =
unknown
bands and the like who do not have hundreds to spend on websites and
hosting.) Thanks for your input, most of what you said I have already =
tried
to do, as for the BA thing, that is her words, she wrote what she wanted =
in
the information areas, I just worked around it.

On 11 Oct 2006 14:01:53 -0000, Alex Libby [EMAIL REMOVED] =
wrote:
>
> Hi Kitty,
>
> I have had a look - overall, I think it is a very good attempt; I have =

> seen other people ask for opinions via this forum, about web sites=20
> they have created, so I would not worry - this is not spamming. It=20
> would only be spamming if you simply advertised the site to lots of=20
> people - here you are asking for help, which is different.
>
> In the meantime, here are my thoughts - please forgive the length:
>
> 1. I noticed one small slip up - "and obtained BA Music"; I think you=20
> meant to say "and obtained a BA degree in Music". I know this is a=20
> small thing, but for some reason, these small things tend to be easier =

> to spot when publishing online. I think it is the only grammatical=20
> error I have been able to find - people notice this, so text has to be
absolutely perfect!
>
> 2. "Design and graphics copyright (c) 2006 Digital Kittyn, except=20
> original photography used by permission of Liza Finn. Best viewed in
1024x768"
>
> My feeling about this is that it should really be towards the bottom=20
> of the page - you do not need to have 2 copyright symbols; either one=20
> (ideally the
> symbol) is sufficient. Some people say that putting the best screen=20
> resolution is not ideal, as it might suggest that your site can only=20
> be viewed at this resolution, and that people might feel forced to=20
> change their screen resolutions in order to view the site. To be=20
> perfectly honest, I don't think it is necessary, and would probably =
not
include it.
>
> 3. Is there a particular reason for using MySpace as your hosting
provider?
> I know it might be cheap (or even free); I accept it might be a good=20
> way for Liza to promote herself within the MySpace community. However, =

> it does come across as an excuse for MySpace to advertise itself,=20
> whilst also removing some of the impact from your client's image. I=20
> would have a look around to see if there are any cheap (or free=20
> websites), which don't include so much advertising - as an example,=20
> you could try the beginner's web hosting service from 1 and 1, which=20
> is about =A32.50 a month. I know it means an outlay, but paid for web=20
> hosting is so much better than free ones; it gives a better image, it=20
> allows you more freedom in what you can do, and provides a host of=20
> other services as well. MySpace is only really effective for use by
registered members...
>
> 4. I noticed one big problem with using MySpace - it requires you to=20
> sign up, in order to view a number of the facilities you have linked=20
> to, such as videos. Whilst this would be OK for existing MySpace=20
> users, it does mean that others need to sign up, just to see parts of=20
> the site; this could discourage them from doing so, particularly if=20
> visitors are looking at the site for professional reasons, such as the =

> possibility of your friend signing at an event (I know, web users can =
be a
fickle bunch!).
>
> 5. I like the floral border used - it is particularly good that you=20
> have not tried to use frames, which I consider a big turn-off on any
website.
> However, the use of this border illustration on the right hand side of =

> the page does make reading some of the text harder, because of the=20
> conflicting colours (black on dark red). I would suggest seeing if you =

> can resize some of the tables and / or layout used, so that it does=20
> not spill over the border illustration used. I think the layout needs=20
> more colour, such as on backgrounds for titles, as well as boxes=20
> around parts of the text - at the moment, it does give an impression=20
> of being all thrown together, without really grouping particular areas
together.
> Take a look at the "Contacting Zoe" box on=20
> =
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Duser.viewprofile&frien
> did=3D10 4846860, which is one of the contacts your client's site =
links=20
> to, and I think you will see what I mean.
>
>
> I hope what I have written above is not too depressing or discouraging =

> - what you have done is a good attempt, and you should never be scared =

> of asking for help! I hope what I have put will help improve the site=20
> for you - please let me know if you need any further help, on or off =
list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex Libby.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Sami =

> Keighley
> Sent: 11 October 2006 12:18
> To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: My first freelance job
>
>
> Well I didn't want to put it in case no one wanted it lol ... I been=20
> getting told off for spamming and stuff when im saying hey look at=20
> this tell me what you think..
>
> http://www.myspace.com/lizafinn
>
> On 11 Oct 2006 11:03:28 -0000, Gary Short [EMAIL REMOVED] wrote:
> >
> > Sami Keighley wrote:
> > >
> > > This sounds really bad, but I only started freelancing a couple of =

> > > weeks ago and I got my first job which was designing a girls =
MySpace.
> > > I wonder if ppl would like to look at it, see what they think?
> > >
> > > Kitty
> > >
> >
> > Sure, will you tell us the url, or shall I we send the boys round to =

> > beat it out of you? :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gary
> > http://www.garyshort.org/
> >
> >
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