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Re: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
date posted 27th March 2007 20:11
I wasn't sure based on the last two emails one of which has been black
listed for wrting endless drival.
Thank you
Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Jepson" [EMAIL REMOVED]
To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
>
> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but he already has.
>
> Leigh Jepson
> Midnight Software
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of Ashraf
> Aswat
> Sent: 27 March 2007 07:53
> To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
>
>
> The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few.
>
> Make the change Andrew!
>
> Ash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: 27 March 2007 06:17
> To: Ashraf Aswat
> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
>
>
> Andrew,
>
> So you are assuming that I, and others who have equally voiced their
> comments about your spam (yes, spam) are prepared to even want to do
> this, let alone take the 2 seconds you say it requires to do this?
>
> This is a really selfish attitude to take - I wrote my original email
> below because I was fed up with your spam system constantly issuing
> challenges to the forum, and the effects it was having for others who
> equally did not want your spam challenges. We are all members of the
> same profession, or at least have a more than passing interest in it, if
> we do not have a job within the industry. I think we all understand the
> need for not sending out emails which can be classed as junk - I think
> your system was the only one to send out any junk email in the 6,300-odd
> emails that have been sent since I joined on 19th September last year.
>
> I get enough spam as it is, without it being added to because someone is
> not prepared to put some work into their spam filters, and is relying on
> other people to have to the work for them. Yes - they have to; as was
> previously mentioned, why have you not just added [EMAIL REMOVED]
> as a trusted user? You are disadvantaging yourself in any case if you
> run your current spam system - most people will either blacklist you, or
> simply ignore your emails, so you could be missing out on making
> potential contacts / friends. I don't want to have to add my name to
> every whitelist going simply so that I don't have their spam challenges
> - neither should others!
>
> Please - do not run (or restart running) your spam system that you have
> been running up until recently; you are more likely to nark off people
> on this forum than make friends. Most people seem to manage OK without
> the need for issuing challenges, so why can't you?
>
>
> Alex.
>
>
> P.S. The length of time I took to write my original reply is irrelevant;
> I took my time to try to compose something which did not simply show how
> narked I (and others) were with your spam challenge system, and which
> tried to provide a measured response to your comments.
>
>
> jump through hoops,
>
> reply
> send
> = less than 2 seconds!
>
>
> Did you really write this email because you can't be bothered to reply
> to an
> email, that involves hitting the reply button and sending.
>
> How did it take you to write this reply.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Libby" [EMAIL REMOVED]
> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:34 PM
> Subject: RE: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
>
>
>>
>> I'm sorry Andrew, but I must agree with Ian and Kathy.
>>
>> To assume that you are OK with any one from this forum implies that
> they
>> must (and I mean must) go through subscribing just so that your
>> auto-emails
>> do not repeatedly fill their inbox; this is a selfish attitude to
> take. As
>> you are the one who is generating these emails, how about simply
> saying
>> that
>> anyone sending to fnmail.co.uk becomes a safe sender in Outlook? I
> fully
>> back Kathy's request to have you unsubbed from the list - it was not
>> childish, it was simply a measured response to your emails filling our
>> inboxes.
>>
>> We should not have to jump through hoops simply because you decide to
> have
>> a
>> system where you don't do any work in determining who is a real person
> and
>> who is a spammer. I myself must have removed at least 20-30 of your
> emails
>> from my inbox, which were simply requests to add my address to the
> spam
>> list. I have come close to also asking for your email address to be
>> unsubbed, as I was getting fed up of seeing emails from someone who
>> clearly
>> wasn't keen on doing any work - can I ask why you use this adddress,
> and
>> expect us to have to jump through hoops so that you can read emails??
> How
>> about just simply creating a spare inbox for the purposes of this
> forum,
>> and
>> letting it fill up with the emails that come through. You pick out
> what
>> you
>> want, and then delete the rest - keep your current Punters Power email
>> address for your personal emails, where there will not be as many
> emails
>> coming through, and use whatever spam killer you need. I use McAfee
>> myself -
>> it is not perfect, and still has something to learn about my email
>> correspondence (oh yeah - I am not a spammer!), but at least I don't
>> expect
>> anyone to have to jump through hoops just so that they can read my
> emails,
>> and vice-versa.
>>
>> Please - for the sake of everyone else on this forum; stop using this
>> complicated, irritating and frankly unncessary system. We are all in
> the
>> same business together, and I hope not about to send spam to anyone. I
>> joined up because I knew that I would gradually get to know people who
>
>> might
>> become useful contacts (and I hope vice-versa, given time) - I did not
>
>> join
>> up to have my email inbox filled up with auto-emails from someone's
>> account,
>> simply because he could not trust friends, and be bothered to put in
> work
>> himself on his whitelist.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL REMOVED] [EMAIL REMOVED] On Behalf Of
> Punters
>> Power
>> Sent: 24 March 2007 21:42
>> To: FN-FORUM / [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
>>
>>
>> Whilst I understand you dilema, your stand point begs a question? why
>
>> don't
>> you just subscribe to the digest list?
>>
>> I am happy for anyone who is legitimately using the email forum to
> have my
>> email on their whitelist, why should I unless I wanted to contribute
> to
>> making it for spammers.
>>
>> Are you a spammer Ian? Alot of people talk about how to tackle spam
> but
>> don;t want to do anything about it.
>>
>> Being on my whitelist stops spam. What exactly do you think my
> whitelist
>> is
>> going to do except allow your emails to be delivered!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ian M Robertson" [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> To: [EMAIL REMOVED]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: FN-FORUM: DAN! ANDY!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday 24 March 2007 21:07, Punters Power wrote:
>>>> no ones in box would .....
>>>
>>>> What is the problem?
>>>
>>> Means that everyone who posts to this list MUST be on your whitelist
> - I
>>> for
>>> one am NOT interested in that.
>>>
>>> IanR
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